HERE IS THE LINK TO THE BLOG ENTRY AT NEW COVENANT LIVING
Someone claiming to be a spokesman for Warren made the following statement to Jack Brook's blog:
"When Dr. Warren told Larry King that he never campaigned for California's Proposition 8, he was referring to not participating in the official two-year organized advocacy effort specific to the ballot initiative in that state, based on his focus and leadership on other compassion issues. Because he's a pastor, not an activist, in response to inquiries from church members, he issued an email and video message to his congregation days before the election confirming where he and Saddleback Church stood on this issue."[I replied to this with the following comment]
I'd like to respond to this, with what I see as the lesser problem first.
1) The chief difficulty with your explanation above is that what Warren did do still constitutes campaigning (the definition of the word as it relates to promoting candidates or ideas during elections):
Unless the following is a quotation Warren never made, it's more than informing only his own congregation where he and the leadership of Saddleback stood on the issue:
"So I urge you to support Proposition 8, and pass that word on. I’m going to be sending out a note to pastors on what I believe about this. But everybody knows what I believe about it. They heard me at the Civil Forum when I asked both Obama and McCain on their views."So that's not campaigning? If Warren urged the membership at his church to support the measure, and to garner further support by "passing the word on," and if he communicated the same to other ministers, then that is campaigning.
You cannot take a particular accepted definition of the word "campaign," and then narrow it down to only mean a protracted two year effort where you are in some sort of leadership, or are some kind of mouthpiece, from the get go. If Warren urged people to support Proposition 8, and urged them to pass the word on, then that, in itself, is what campaigning is all about. That quotation above was more than a personal endorsement.
Here is a link for everyone's edification.
2) I find what is below much more troublesome, however. I think the discrepancy is pretty clear here, but if not, the crucial words are in all caps:
"During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, NEVER ONCE ISSUED A STATEMENT, NEVER -- NEVER ONCE EVEN GAVE AN ENDORSEMENT IN THE TWO YEARS PROP 8 WAS GOING."But this is what he said, to hundreds, if not thousands, within the time frame of the two years, which wasn't over until after election day:
"So I urge you to support Proposition 8, and pass that word on. I’m going to be sending out a note to pastors on what I believe about this. But everybody knows what I believe about it. They heard me at the Civil Forum when I asked both Obama and McCain on their views."Perhaps Warren only meant he didn't buy radio air time or TV time, or write an editorial to the newspaper to make a statement or endorsement. But that explanation is far more bogus than your explanation of why he claimed he didn't campaign, on account of the categorical nature of his comment (ie - the multiple use of the word "never"). While I can be charitable and give him a pass for claiming he didn't campaign, I don't see how one can give him a pass for saying "never" above, three times, in respect to issuing statements and endorsements about this matter.
[PS - I'm rewriting this comment because the formatting in the first one got messed up, somehow, and want to add this thought - how could everybody know what he believed about Proposition 8 already, prior to his statement to his church, if he never once issued a statement or endorsement about it?]